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| First_Marti | The Others | 3 | Aug 1 2008, 10:23 PM EDT by First_Marti | |||
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Thread started: Jul 22 2008, 2:11 AM EDT
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I believe that "The Others" came as a replacements for the first Darma Initiative. All the first Darma Initiative group were gassed, and Ben with the help of Richard Alpert brought in a new group of strange characters. But they were totally devoted to Ben and Richard. I feel that Richard was born on the island and was one of the Hostiles. Since he never changes with age, he must do a lot of Time Traveling. I also feel that Richard is Jacob, and go off the island but always has to come back. He can never leave for good.
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| Bummy16 | The others | 0 | May 18 2007, 12:15 PM EDT by Bummy16 | |||
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Thread started: May 18 2007, 12:15 PM EDT
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Kay, we no that ben wasnt born on island, and he killed his mom when he was born, and that he killed Dharma Initiative for the others that were already there. The dharma and others were at it forever, and now charlie is inside a new place underwater where he was confronted by the little girl who ben hanged out with, and now she's older. Also, Jack & Kate r not 2 be trusted. And 1 more thing, when Sawyer killed john's dad, there was a poetic sense. People have been saying there in hell, however, Sawyer was goin "wanna go to hell" when he killed dad, the producers were trying to show you guys that they aren't in hell, so remember that.
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| Anonymous | bens mum and dad | 1 | Apr 25 2007, 11:15 PM EDT by Anonymous | |||
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Thread started: Apr 22 2007, 10:16 AM EDT
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I think Ben could have been borne on the island as a result of the two cave people who were found burried in the cave in season one, jack said they died 50 to 60 years ago, that would tie in with how old ben is on the island, and the theory is it was these two who really went missing in the pacific about 60 years ago
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| #1LostFan | Mittelos Bioscience | 0 | Apr 20 2007, 7:54 PM EDT by #1LostFan | |||
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Thread started: Apr 20 2007, 7:54 PM EDT
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Maybe the Others are all part of the Mittelos Bioscience. It was first introduced in Julliets flashbacks. We know that besides Julliet, Ethan and Richard was in it. Richard said that the place they work is very far away (which is the Island) to Julliet.
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| Anonymous | danniele rosseau + ben | 4 | Mar 1 2007, 12:04 PM EST by lostaddict18 | |||
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Thread started: Dec 8 2006, 6:52 PM EST
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(THEORY)dat krazy french lady had a baby wit ben and dats du girl wit du slingshot who warns kate 2 save sawyer(THEORY)
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| Anonymous | Lives of the Others | 3 | Feb 22 2007, 7:12 PM EST by Anonymous | |||
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Thread started: Oct 26 2006, 12:28 PM EDT
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It is obvious that the Others are trying to build a Utopian Soceity. That is why they wanted the children, because kids can be molded.
John Locke is a follower and can be made to believe in anything. Echo is religious and is trying to be a good person. Do the others need a priest? Jack is a real doctor, not just a fertility doctor but a sergeon. So they will try to break him down and brainwash him, and make him live peaceably in their society. Also...have we forgotten about Alex???? I predict she will run into Sayid, ask/get told about her mom; then help Sayid, Jin, and Sun to rescue Sawyer and Kate. Then they will have to regroup to get out Jack since he is inside the compound, and under water. Maybe Sayid's group will meet up with Locke and his group, and they will all attack together. That might be the finale!!!
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| Anonymous | Juliette / others / time line of possible research operation | 0 | Feb 13 2007, 5:53 PM EST by Anonymous | |||
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Thread started: Feb 13 2007, 5:53 PM EST
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Juliette calls the others "They" as well. Although, she identifies herself also as one of them, with "That's not how we do things here." She was only there 3 years, but only supposed to be gone 6 months.
Desmond was there about 2-3 years as well. So either the people that recruited Juliette were a total red herring, or they're ability to make a bus appear out of no where and take out her husband, and get her to the Others, was indicative of how powerful and secretive they are. Promising her that she can go home... They said she'd be there for SIX MONTHS...but what happened? And does this correspond with another magnetic pulse that lead Desmond to get there? Tom says to Jack, in the operating room, that Ben and Juliette “have history…” Something interrupts his conversation with Jack, and Tom says “then the sky turned purple…” and Jack cuts him off (Maybe the walkie talkie goes off? I forget. But going on a time line here, about 6 months into Juliette’s research assignment (that she was supposed to return from in time for her sister’s baby,) someone fails to push the button (perhaps the sky turned purple). Desmond’s boat crashed. He became the next person to be button pushing. He stops pushing it, Jack’s plane crashes. Perhaps before that first time of the explosion, the research Juliette was doing was still working out okay. Then another mishap at the hatch caused her to be unable to leave for some reason. Not that she can’t…because clearly, Ben says he’ll let her go free if he lives. So he CAN make it happen, but just WON’T. My point: if she's been out there 3 years, 2 years and 6 months ago she was still doing some sort of legit research for those guys?? And either they still needed her, or something went haywire on the island. |
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| Anonymous | In regards to bens age... | 1 | Feb 12 2007, 1:49 PM EST by Anonymous | |||
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Thread started: Nov 15 2006, 9:36 AM EST
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Doesn't Jack mention Ben's approx age when he see's his x-rays?
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| viperpl003 | They are the original scientists from Darma project... | 3 | Feb 5 2007, 3:21 AM EST by Branfish | |||
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Thread started: Oct 7 2006, 6:52 PM EDT
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What if they are the original scientists from Darma project? What if they are there because of a medical experiment gone wrong in one of the stations. That explains why they are still on the island with ships and houses and books. Also the people running the program could have built them the houses and are still sending them the food and supplies.
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| Anonymous | BIG hint in last night's episode | 1 | Jan 3 2007, 7:12 AM EST by Anonymous | |||
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Thread started: Oct 26 2006, 2:48 PM EDT
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when jack asks juliette if she answers to ben, juliette says something along the lines of "i dont answer to him thats not how we do things here." that is straight up behaviorist psychology talk right there. the way they "duped" sawyer in order to keep both him AND kate in line is right up that alley as well.
now for some mere speculation...how interesting that the two murderers (kate and sawyer) end up...behind bars... on the island "twice the size of alcatraz" (says ben). If the producers said everything so far has a scientific explanation, does that mean they're implying that no Fate or Synchronicity are involved? if so, then the others (and probably dharma corp. in the "regular world") must clearly have chosen these particular people and manipulated them into being on the same plane. i mean, penelope's dad found a way to get desmond there RIGHT? for those who will argue about kate and sawyer being the only murderers, (and i know there will be some because they are not the only ones who have caused deaths) i will argue that hurley accidentally killed, i dont remember if sayid killed but he was fighting for his country, Jin let his wife's lover kill himself, and Eko was a warlord type who repented for his sins but subsequently was brought face-to-face with them again upon discovering his brothers plane on the island. kate and sawyer shouldve been behind bars anyway, and now they are. this says a lot about the others contact wit the outside world
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| Anonymous | Food | 1 | Oct 26 2006, 12:17 PM EDT by Anonymous | |||
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Thread started: Oct 7 2006, 9:03 PM EDT
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Remeber there are air drops as seen in season 2 with the hatch
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| Anonymous | Contact with the outside world | 1 | Oct 26 2006, 12:15 PM EDT by Anonymous | |||
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Thread started: Oct 8 2006, 7:26 AM EDT
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Ok, about the whole do they have contact with the outside arguement. I think they do, obviously they've been on the island for a long time and the Dharma Initiative supposively ended in 1987 (founded in 1970). I read somewhere that LOST producers said that the "others" are/were the Dharma Initiative scientist (they didn't say original).
-There were many versions of Stephen Kings' Carrie that were in LOST 3-1. The most recent one I saw was the red covered mass market paperback edition that was first printed in 2002 according to the The Stephen King bookshop (picture of cover on the site) and Amazon. wiki - (ISBN 0-671-03973-3 (paperback, 2000) -When Jack asked Julliette how Sarah was doing she said that Sarah is doing well. She could be lying though, she really didn't prove anything.
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| Anonymous | FILES | 3 | Oct 26 2006, 12:10 PM EDT by Anonymous | |||
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Thread started: Oct 7 2006, 7:52 AM EDT
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HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THE FILES COMPILED ON JACK AND POSSIBLY KATE AS WELL AS SAWYER ARE AUTHENTIC? THE INFORMATION FOUND WITHIN JACK'S FILE COULD EASILY OF BEEN OBTAINED BY FACT FINDING MISSIONS ON THE ISLAND. WHEN JACK ASKS IF HIS EX-WIFE IS HAPPY, JULIET SIMPLY REPLIES YES. THAT DOES NOT REVEAL ANY "REAL WORLD" INFORMATION.
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| Anonymous | How they got the information | 2 | Oct 26 2006, 12:06 PM EDT by Anonymous | |||
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Thread started: Oct 9 2006, 10:43 AM EDT
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Remember the band-aid Kate and Jack had on their arms? I think the Others injected them some sort of drugs that made them talk. Just like they did with Claire as Ethan abducted her.
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| Anonymous | BF Skinner and Behaviorists | 0 | Oct 19 2006, 12:47 AM EDT by Anonymous | |||
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Thread started: Oct 19 2006, 12:47 AM EDT
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i recall the dharma video saying someone was started by grad students who were more or less followers of behavioral psychologisys like BF Skinner. the cage that sawyer was in IS a "skinner box" which skinner himself used to do psychological tests on animals involving pushing levers for rewards (or no reward). i wont get too far into it here, but skinner was all about behavioral engineering, and if anyone reads his book "walden 2" you may be quite surprised as to how he proposes we raise BABIES. (with no "traditional" parents, in temperature controlled boxes)
walden two is a fictional story about a commune in which there is no income...everyone jsut works 4 hours a day to do their part for their community and share the benefits. its almost liek BF Skinners version of The Republic by Plato. It's his idea of Utopia. |
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| Anonymous | Current events follow up | 2 | Oct 18 2006, 9:33 AM EDT by Anonymous | |||
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Thread started: Oct 14 2006, 5:09 PM EDT
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Just checked the episode Ben says "Your fellow Americans". Obviously separating himself. Ben and others not Americans, no apparent distinguishible accents? Anyone? Noticed any geographical or natinal accents in any of the others' voice when they speak?
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| Anonymous | current events | 2 | Oct 18 2006, 4:24 AM EDT by Anonymous | |||
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Thread started: Oct 14 2006, 4:54 PM EDT
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I've been trying to remember. Did Ben "Henry Gale" say "Your people..." to Jack as he told him current information from the ourside world? Did he say "since you crashed your people reelected Goerge W. Bush, etc."?
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| hebibty | to the Key note | 0 | Oct 14 2006, 7:14 AM EDT by hebibty | |||
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Thread started: Oct 14 2006, 7:14 AM EDT
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I think they mentioned US current events, because Jack is American. It would not affect him, if they mentioned something that happened in the Middle East or Australia for example. They would say other current things to Jin.
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