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dihoos
dihoos
40. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 2 2009, 6:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 3 2009, 4:46 AM EDT
Well I think last nights episode explained why Ben is such a douche, And more over That Faraday Quantum physics (as it relates to the show) are correct. Do you find this valuable?    
lizzie101102
lizzie101102
41. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 3 2009, 9:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 3 2009, 9:31 PM EDT
jack thout he would change the futre by not saving ben but ben ended up being saved anyway well my thouts are that the people were brought back from the present to the past to change what happens to ben i think he may have a higher purpose so the lost crew need to change the past to corect the futre maybe this is how time is "corecting itself"(as we like to say) but because be is now with the others then some lives have to be taken, i think clair disapered so she would not have to go back because she needs to be with aaron and raise him to be good, what happend to ben on the island might happen with aaron
let me know if my theorys are way off or just crazzie
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giambone
giambone
42. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!! franky
Apr 3 2009, 10:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 3 2009, 10:33 PM EDT
im seein things i just saw a guy with a name tag of the name richard he said hes fixing someone am i crazy !!!!!!!!!!! Do you find this valuable?    
Stephany1177
Stephany1177
43. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 4 2009, 1:43 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 4 2009, 1:43 AM EDT
"jack thout he would change the futre by not saving ben but ben ended up being saved anyway well my thouts are that the people were brought back from the present to the past to change what happens to ben i think he may have a higher purpose so the lost crew need to change the past to corect the futre maybe this is how time is "corecting itself"(as we like to say) but because be is now with the others then some lives have to be taken, i think clair disapered so she would not have to go back because she needs to be with aaron and raise him to be good, what happend to ben on the island might happen with aaron
let me know if my theorys are way off or just crazzie"
This leads me to wonder how Ben would have turned out if Jack did agree to save him. Ben would still have his innocence, his free will. Would he have made the same decisions? Committed the same actions? I think if Jack saved Ben, then history would have changed. I don't know how drastically. So far I think everything on the timeline is on track, the story is just gradually showing us this.
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LostFanAttic
44. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 4 2009, 8:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 4 2009, 8:41 PM EDT
No Ben really got shot when he was a kid and richard had to save him which then made him the crazy ben Do you find this valuable?    
Mike1177
Mike1177
45. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 4 2009, 11:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 4 2009, 11:19 PM EDT
"No Ben really got shot when he was a kid and richard had to save him which then made him the crazy ben"
Who are you responding to?
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lizzie101102
lizzie101102
46. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 5 2009, 12:14 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 5 2009, 12:14 AM EDT
I think that the main lost people had to be srnt back for the futre to happen if sayid wasent there ben would have never found the corage to try to go for the hostiles and if kate and sawer werent there no one would have brout ben to the hostiles i think the island is just showing them and us the past so we can understand the actions of ben and widmore and understand the rules. when i hear rules i think game does anyonr think this is a big game of monopoly played by ben a widmor
i hope its not
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Stephany1177
Stephany1177
47. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 5 2009, 3:02 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 5 2009, 3:02 AM EDT
"I think that the main lost people had to be srnt back for the futre to happen if sayid wasent there ben would have never found the corage to try to go for the hostiles and if kate and sawer werent there no one would have brout ben to the hostiles i think the island is just showing them and us the past so we can understand the actions of ben and widmore and understand the rules. when i hear rules i think game does anyonr think this is a big game of monopoly played by ben a widmor
i hope its not"
I was more thinking Chess lol... but I hope not also.
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Beatrix25
Beatrix25
48. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 7 2009, 1:55 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 7 2009, 1:55 AM EDT
"Isn't it possible that Faraday could be WRONG?! He has studied this stuff, and gave us his theories to give the audience a better understanding of what's going on, but clearly he doesn't know everything about the way time travel works. He may be the most knowledgeable voice on the island, but we've been lied to many times before."
We can all be wrong. That is why it is intereting to see how it all plays out. But I noticed with time travel if Miles theory is right, that everything already happened well then Jin saved Danielle Roussou's life or to be exact her mind, even though she is know as the crazy french woman, which I don't like. Getting to my point when Jin washed ashore he ended up with Danielle and her french science team. One of them got dragged down a hole by the smoke monster, his arm flew up and then he said "help me get out of here" or something like that. They were all ready to go down and help their fellow team member. Danielle was going in, but Jin said to her "no, you don't go, you pregnant". Then Jin travels a little foward and sees that Danielle is ready to shoot her husband because he had changed and turned evel, which was true. The only one who didn't change was Danielle and I think it is because Jin told her not to go down that hole with the rest of the crew. So Jin saved Danielle, but doesn't even know it, well he saved her from becoming evil or whatever her team became.
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Mike1177
Mike1177
49. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 7 2009, 2:35 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 7 2009, 2:35 AM EDT
"We can all be wrong. That is why it is intereting to see how it all plays out. But I noticed with time travel if Miles theory is right, that everything already happened well then Jin saved Danielle Roussou's life or to be exact her mind, even though she is know as the crazy french woman, which I don't like. Getting to my point when Jin washed ashore he ended up with Danielle and her french science team. One of them got dragged down a hole by the smoke monster, his arm flew up and then he said "help me get out of here" or something like that. They were all ready to go down and help their fellow team member. Danielle was going in, but Jin said to her "no, you don't go, you pregnant". Then Jin travels a little foward and sees that Danielle is ready to shoot her husband because he had changed and turned evel, which was true. The only one who didn't change was Danielle and I think it is because Jin told her not to go down that hole with the rest of the crew. So Jin saved Danielle, but doesn't even know it, well he saved her from becoming evil or whatever her team became."
This is one of the things that confused me. Stephany brought it up to me one time when we were talking about the time travelling.

We had questioned this many times with Ben. Before last week's episode we had all wondered why Ben didn't didn't remember Sayid in the present from what we are seeing now in the 70's. We somewhat have that answer now. Daniel's theory is pretty much panning out. But Stephany made a good point to me asking why Danielle doesn't remember Jin.

She won't be online tonight. I got her home from the hospital an hour or so ago. She had a bad seizure today. She's doing ok though. I got her to go lay down and go to sleep now.
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Beatrix25
Beatrix25
50. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 7 2009, 3:32 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 7 2009, 3:32 AM EDT
OH mike, is she okay. Tell her I am thinking of her. Please make sure she is okay and keep checking on her. Tell her tomorrow, I was going to say how my theory is always the same as hers, she will laugh that we were both thinking about Jin with Danielle. Please let us know tomorrow how she is doing and I hope the seizure was not to hard on her. Make sure she rests. Tell her not to think about nothing but resting and good things and tell her that I said that, about the good thoughts and resting her mind. Do you find this valuable?    
milkeman
milkeman
51. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 9 2009, 1:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 9 2009, 1:05 PM EDT
"This is one of the things that confused me. Stephany brought it up to me one time when we were talking about the time travelling.

We had questioned this many times with Ben. Before last week's episode we had all wondered why Ben didn't didn't remember Sayid in the present from what we are seeing now in the 70's. We somewhat have that answer now. Daniel's theory is pretty much panning out. But Stephany made a good point to me asking why Danielle doesn't remember Jin.

She won't be online tonight. I got her home from the hospital an hour or so ago. She had a bad seizure today. She's doing ok though. I got her to go lay down and go to sleep now. "
sorry to hear that about Stephany. Hope she's %100 percent better now.

I have to wonder about Danille not remembering Jin too. I'm guessing that to her it's no big deal to see Jin again. After seeing him disappear once before and reappearing at a later time she knows it's possible. Also after living on the island alone for so long I'm sure she's gotten used to seeing even stranger things.
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Stephany1177
Stephany1177
52. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 9 2009, 3:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 9 2009, 3:57 PM EDT
"sorry to hear that about Stephany. Hope she's %100 percent better now.

I have to wonder about Danille not remembering Jin too. I'm guessing that to her it's no big deal to see Jin again. After seeing him disappear once before and reappearing at a later time she knows it's possible. Also after living on the island alone for so long I'm sure she's gotten used to seeing even stranger things."
True, I would just think we see a sense of familiarity between the two.

And thank you all for your support. Not yet 100%, but getting there. :) You all have been great to Mike and I.
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Jkan_133
Jkan_133
53. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 10 2009, 9:07 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 10 2009, 9:07 AM EDT
it does seem kind of odd that she wouldn't remember Jin, but maybe she forgot what he looked like after 16 years living alone on an island. Do you find this valuable?    
lizzie101102
lizzie101102
54. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 10 2009, 11:42 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 10 2009, 11:42 AM EDT
Maybe she never actualy saw jin so she never had to remember Do you find this valuable?    
Beatrix25
Beatrix25
55. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 12 2009, 1:56 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 12 2009, 1:56 AM EDT
Hmm, I find this interesting since I was the one who brought up this subject of Jin saving Danielle, but it never came to my mind why she wouldn't remember him. I don't think that she would just shrug it off, but then again there is alot of things that go on at the island that I would be asking alot of questions about, but they don't seem to. Do you find this valuable?    
milkeman
milkeman
56. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 15 2009, 1:53 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 15 2009, 1:53 AM EDT
"True, I would just think we see a sense of familiarity between the two.

And thank you all for your support. Not yet 100%, but getting there. :) You all have been great to Mike and I. "
hey, welcome back stephany.
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Mike1177
Mike1177
57. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 15 2009, 2:08 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 15 2009, 2:08 AM EDT
"hey, welcome back stephany. "
She'll appreciate it. I don't know what Beatrix told you all, but she's been very supportive of us and checking in. Steph had another seizure last week, but she is ok. She's dozing on the couch now. Most of Easter and Monday for us was sleeping, cleaning the house, and catching back up on homework. Stephany is doing much better. Thank you for checking in and wishing her well.
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Beatrix25
Beatrix25
58. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 16 2009, 3:53 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2009, 3:53 AM EDT
Yea, welcome back Stephany, glad your doing better. Just take it slow okay, you will feel like your 100% better real soon, promise!! Do you find this valuable?    
Clancey
Clancey
59. RE: YOUNG BEN ALIVE OR DEAD????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 22 2009, 6:52 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 22 2009, 6:52 PM EDT
"Is it possible under the Faraday Quantum Physics laws for Young Ben to be dead?"
Bens dead .....physics shysics...what real in the REAL world,is not REAL on the island...however, the others will keep Ben spirit alive...and everyone will get a second chance to change their lives for the better
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