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lizzie101102 |
what happens to the futre
Mar 26 2009, 2:55 PM EDT
we know that when ben killed the others is soon because he is, well was the right age so i wonder if someone is still going to kill the darma and iff so do kate jack jin sawer and hurly die? and where do you think sayid whent he rely cant go far?
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Z=ailbad |
1. RE: what happens to the futre
Mar 26 2009, 5:51 PM EDT
Im thinking two ideas about this..one they change the past forever and stop everyone from darma dieing but this seems too far and unrealistic from the fact everything from the past makes no sense.. but at this point in lost anything can happenooor my 2nd idea being they get out just intime or something not too far from that idea but just like you i really can't tell u yet intill that next epic episode of lost next week -.- Do you find this valuable? |
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lizzie101102 |
2. RE: what happens to the futre
Mar 26 2009, 5:58 PM EDT
and if they changed the futre by not letting darma die then it would be like waking from a dream where theyr back on the plane the first time and that is just lame
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Stephany1177 |
3. RE: what happens to the futre
Mar 26 2009, 6:02 PM EDT
"we know that when ben killed the others is soon because he is, well was the right age so i wonder if someone is still going to kill the darma and iff so do kate jack jin sawer and hurly die? and where do you think sayid whent he rely cant go far?"The Purge happens in 1992... they are in 1977. Sawyer and co. would have had 15 years to live among Dharma before the Purge occured. Also now that I think about it, Ben really didn't commit the Purge. I think his choices, leaving Dharma and becoming the leader of the Others, were a factor leading to the Purge, but he didn't actually do it. He was in the VW van killing his father while the Hostiles/Others unleashed the toxic gas from the one of the stations, the Tempest. So it's very possible that the purge could still occur with or without Ben. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
milkeman |
4. RE: what happens to the futre
Mar 27 2009, 11:05 AM EDT
"The Purge happens in 1992... they are in 1977. Sawyer and co. would have had 15 years to live among Dharma before the Purge occured. Also now that I think about it, Ben really didn't commit the Purge. I think his choices, leaving Dharma and becoming the leader of the Others, were a factor leading to the Purge, but he didn't actually do it. He was in the VW van killing his father while the Hostiles/Others unleashed the toxic gas from the one of the stations, the Tempest. So it's very possible that the purge could still occur with or without Ben."As Faraday once said "what ever happened happened" so the Purge does happen with Ben. He is considered the mastermind behind the genocide. Just as Locke was supposed to murder his own father to join the others so did Ben. Whoa, I just realized that connection now. Do you find this valuable? |
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Stephany1177 |
5. RE: what happens to the futre
Mar 28 2009, 4:07 AM EDT
"As Faraday once said "what ever happened happened" so the Purge does happen with Ben. He is considered the mastermind behind the genocide. Just as Locke was supposed to murder his own father to join the others so did Ben. Whoa, I just realized that connection now."I agree with you that the Purge still happens and it happens with Ben still alive and well... I was simply pointing out for arguments sake that we may perceive Ben as the mastermind behind the Purge, but in all actuallity he's not the one who committed it. He murdered his father yes. But he did not let out the toxic gas that initially killed the rest of the Dharma population. He was in the VW van killing his father while the Purge was being committed. He was fully aware of the Purge taking place however. The two incidents happened at the same time, and are definitly linked, yet they are still two different incidents. Do you find this valuable? |
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milkeman |
6. RE: what happens to the futre
Mar 30 2009, 3:08 PM EDT
"I agree with you that the Purge still happens and it happens with Ben still alive and well... I was simply pointing out for arguments sake that we may perceive Ben as the mastermind behind the Purge, but in all actuallity he's not the one who committed it. He murdered his father yes. But he did not let out the toxic gas that initially killed the rest of the Dharma population. He was in the VW van killing his father while the Purge was being committed. He was fully aware of the Purge taking place however. The two incidents happened at the same time, and are definitly linked, yet they are still two different incidents. "I think we agree on everything. I think he is the one guy though that came up with the plan and convinced everyone it was the only choice they had before they were eliminated by the Dharma group. Ben, being the great manipulator that he is, was probably the main reason that set off the genocide. Without him Dharma might have been the first to strike and in turn the ones to wipe the hostiles out. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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lizzie101102 |
7. RE: what happens to the futre
Mar 30 2009, 5:53 PM EDT
ben probly let the hostiles in so they could kill the darma without getting caught
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Beatrix25 |
8. RE: what happens to the futre
Mar 30 2009, 7:29 PM EDT
Maybe the purge was not suppose to happen, so that might be the reason Sawyer's group is in the 70's and now some of flight 316 are there too. I think it was Eloise that says that the Universe has a way of correcting itself. Maybe the first purge was a mistake that Ben and the Hostiles made, so they were sent back to the 70's to correct it.
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lizzie101102 |
9. RE: what happens to the futre
Mar 30 2009, 10:20 PM EDT
thats a good theory and it would explain alot like why they were traveling throu time and why the ones that left had to come back exept the ones in the present time they probly wereent suposed to come back Do you find this valuable? |
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Beatrix25 |
10. RE: what happens to the futre
Apr 1 2009, 2:41 AM EDT
"thats a good theory and it would explain alotYea, lizzie. I thought of that too. I kinda think though that the other people from Flight 315 didn't end up in the 70's Dharma village maybe because the island has a purpose for them too where they are now. Like Locke for example. I think he is where he is supposed to be. I also think Lapidus and the rest of that crew were suppose to come back in our time. But, you might be right with Sun, because Jin did not want her to come back so she could have a good life with her daughter away from the island. I can't think of any reason why she was the only Oceanic 6, besides dead Locke who didn't vanish with the light on the plane and end up in the 70's with Jin. Do you find this valuable? |
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AuburnS |
11. RE: what happens to the futre
Apr 2 2009, 5:13 AM EDT
"Yea, lizzie. I thought of that too. I kinda think though that the other people from Flight 315 didn't end up in the 70's Dharma village maybe because the island has a purpose for them too where they are now. Like Locke for example. I think he is where he is supposed to be. I also think Lapidus and the rest of that crew were suppose to come back in our time. But, you might be right with Sun, because Jin did not want her to come back so she could have a good life with her daughter away from the island. I can't think of any reason why she was the only Oceanic 6, besides dead Locke who didn't vanish with the light on the plane and end up in the 70's with Jin."I think maybe it was based on mindset. Sun wasn't sent back because deep down she really didn't want to go. I don't think she ever truly believed Ben, and she actually had something to live for and come back to in the present, so maybe she had a moment of doubt in that flash of light. Hurley was institutionalized, Jack was a mess, Kate gave up "her" kid and was living a lie, and Sayid lost the love of his life and couldn't come to terms with being a murderer. Locke, being dead and unconscious, wouldn't get a choice either, and who ever knows what Ben Linus is thinking. Either that, or the island considers being a parent an ultimate responsibility and wouldn't take her back if it meant abandoning her child. Parental importance has been a huge theme of the show. Can anyone remember someone on the original flight 815 talking about a child at home? Do you find this valuable? |
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lizzie101102 |
12. RE: what happens to the futre
Apr 3 2009, 9:36 PM EDT
i think that maybe the rest of the 6 kate, jack ect were sent back to change somthing and sun dident go back because she is the only one who can change it if the rest fail
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Stephany1177 |
13. RE: what happens to the futre
Apr 4 2009, 1:05 AM EDT
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I'm kind of thinking Sun is meant to be the one to somehow bring them back to the present time... I think everyone is where the island wants them to be at the moment.
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Mike1177 |
14. RE: what happens to the futre
Apr 4 2009, 2:21 AM EDT
"I'm kind of thinking Sun is meant to be the one to somehow bring them back to the present time... I think everyone is where the island wants them to be at the moment."I think so too. I think that is the journey Christian Sheppard is sending her on. Do you find this valuable? |
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lizzie101102 |
15. RE: what happens to the futre
Apr 5 2009, 12:15 AM EDT
i agrea with Stephany and Mike i think the island knows how this is going to work out so everyone is where they are suposed to be
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milkeman |
16. RE: what happens to the futre
Apr 9 2009, 2:43 PM EDT
"I'm kind of thinking Sun is meant to be the one to somehow bring them back to the present time... I think everyone is where the island wants them to be at the moment."i like this idea too. Sun has a purpose and Locke will help her find it. Do you find this valuable? |
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Stephany1177 |
17. RE: what happens to the futre
Apr 9 2009, 4:31 PM EDT
"i like this idea too. Sun has a purpose and Locke will help her find it."Exactly... I think the new people, Ilana, Ceasar, and co., may cause problems though. And who knows what Ben and Widmore will do. I'm wondering if Ben will indeed abide by the smoke monster's judgment or penance of following John Locke's orders. Do you find this valuable? |
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lizzie101102 |
18. RE: what happens to the futre
Apr 9 2009, 9:43 PM EDT
i think that iliana and co (the ones witht the guns) have been on the island or are working for widmore
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Mike1177 |
19. RE: what happens to the futre
Apr 9 2009, 9:56 PM EDT
"i think that iliana and co (the ones witht the guns) have been on the island or are working for widmore"I wondered that since Ilana and Ceasar were introduced to us. Do you find this valuable? |
