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BradHerman
BradHerman
Time problems
May 22 2009, 9:15 PM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 9:15 PM EDT
I just started watching Lost finally and have blazed through the first 4 seasons in about a week. I'm only about 5 episodes into season 5 so far, so please bear with me here.

When the rocket is shot from the freighter, Daniel Faraday observes that time on the island is different than time outside the island. However, both the survivors and the outside world seem to agree on how long they were missing. If time is different on the island, then what was 3 months to them should have been very different to the outside world. Am I missing something or am I just wrong here, or is this a mistake?
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Beatrix25
Beatrix25
1. RE: Time problems
May 22 2009, 9:24 PM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 9:29 PM EDT
I think that when the Oceanic Flight 815 crashed time was the same on the island as the outside world, so yes when the Oceanic 6 came back home, time was the same on the island as the outside world. As soon as Ben turned that wheel and the island started moving is when time did not align with the outside world. Do you find this valuable?    
BradHerman
BradHerman
2. RE: Time problems
May 22 2009, 9:33 PM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 9:33 PM EDT
But Daniel shot the rocket off before they started moving through time and the wheel hadn't been turned. So before the wheel was turned, time was apparently different. Do you find this valuable?    
Beatrix25
Beatrix25
3. RE: Time problems
May 22 2009, 9:39 PM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 9:46 PM EDT
"But Daniel shot the rocket off before they started moving through time and the wheel hadn't been turned. So before the wheel was turned, time was apparently different."
Yea, your right. I was thinking of when the island was moving. Hmm, maybe Daniel knew that the island was going to move through time. But for some reason I think that the island has moved in time before, so now you have me stumped too!! The time travel was something we did not need. lol Too confusing. Also, I believe that Desmond said he was on the island for 3 years and it was the same time as the outside world. So I really see your point now.
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BradHerman
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4. RE: Time problems
May 22 2009, 9:43 PM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 9:43 PM EDT
Yeah, I'm beginning to feel like the show probably wasn't supposed to be 6 seasons (correct me if I'm wrong) and a lot of the crazy stuff is just being tossed in to keep it going longer and raking in the cash. Do you find this valuable?    
Beatrix25
Beatrix25
5. RE: Time problems
May 22 2009, 9:52 PM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 9:52 PM EDT
I am not sure about that. I think the producers/writers already knew how it was going to end. I will tell you that the Season 5 finale is very good and actually one of my favorite episodes. Season 5 was my least favorite though but the finale made up for it. Do you find this valuable?    
milkeman
milkeman
6. RE: Time problems
May 29 2009, 7:15 PM EDT | Post edited: May 29 2009, 7:15 PM EDT
"I just started watching Lost finally and have blazed through the first 4 seasons in about a week. I'm only about 5 episodes into season 5 so far, so please bear with me here.

When the rocket is shot from the freighter, Daniel Faraday observes that time on the island is different than time outside the island. However, both the survivors and the outside world seem to agree on how long they were missing. If time is different on the island, then what was 3 months to them should have been very different to the outside world. Am I missing something or am I just wrong here, or is this a mistake?"
well i'm no math magician, but i think the time difference for 3 months wouldn't have been so big. on a funny note i like how the show tried incorporating the time difference with Walt's growth spurt. Locke telling Sawyer he saw Walt, except bigger. Also Abbadon telling Locke 'the boy's gotten big."

As for any real, concrete scientific stuff on the show I wouldn't try to dissect it down to the second.
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BradHerman
BradHerman
7. RE: Time problems
May 30 2009, 3:28 AM EDT | Post edited: May 30 2009, 3:28 AM EDT
See, I would think it would be a percentage type thing, but I could be totally wrong, maybe the island is just 31 minutes behind. But my understanding is that if time "perception" is different, then it would mean what feels like 10 minutes on the island is really 20 minutes outside, so what's 5 days on the island would then be 10 days outside... This is hypothetical, but if perception itself were different, then it would seem to me to be a percentage, although I am a physics/math nerd. Being just 31 minutes behind, no matter how long, seems like saying "the way you perceive time on the island isn't necessarily how time is" (or whatever it is that Daniel says) wouldn't be a time span perception difference... I dunno, I may just be splitting hairs here, but like I said, I studied engineering for 5 years, so when it comes to math/science/physics, I get a little picky... Do you find this valuable?    
milkeman
milkeman
8. RE: Time problems
May 30 2009, 11:13 AM EDT | Post edited: May 30 2009, 11:13 AM EDT
I guess the writers didn't put too much thought into it. Either that or they just didn't think anyone would notice. I forgot what the time difference was that Faraday discovered, but if it was double then I can definitely see how that could be a problem when Jack and co. had to tell the world about their time on the island. Then again wouldn't Penny have told them some details about how flight 815 was found crashed? They might've learned about the time difference from her.
Wow, now I know we're overthinking this.
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Beatrix25
Beatrix25
9. RE: Time problems
Jun 24 2009, 1:19 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 24 2009, 1:19 AM EDT
I noticed in Season 4, Episode "Confirmed Dead".... Charlotte was with Locke's group who didn't trust her, she just landed on the island and they were all suspicious of her....Ben shot her but she lived...everyone was disgusted with Ben for shooting her. Sawyer was going to kill Ben but Locke said he would do it.....right after that Ben had to think quick to get out of being killed so he started giving Charlotte Lewis life story...he started out by saying that she was born in July, 2, 1979 in England.....how could this be? Daniel Faraday talked to her on the island when she was a little girl...around 4yrs old in 1977..........according to what Ben said, she wasn't even born in 1977. Do you find this valuable?    
milkeman
milkeman
10. RE: Time problems
Jun 30 2009, 11:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 30 2009, 11:17 PM EDT
"I noticed in Season 4, Episode "Confirmed Dead".... Charlotte was with Locke's group who didn't trust her, she just landed on the island and they were all suspicious of her....Ben shot her but she lived...everyone was disgusted with Ben for shooting her. Sawyer was going to kill Ben but Locke said he would do it.....right after that Ben had to think quick to get out of being killed so he started giving Charlotte Lewis life story...he started out by saying that she was born in July, 2, 1979 in England.....how could this be? Daniel Faraday talked to her on the island when she was a little girl...around 4yrs old in 1977..........according to what Ben said, she wasn't even born in 1977."
I think the writers admitted they screwed up on this. There was some confusion about her birthday and the actress was blamed at first, but the writers finally said it was all their fault.
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Beatrix25
Beatrix25
11. RE: Time problems
Jul 1 2009, 1:53 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 1 2009, 1:53 AM EDT
"I think the writers admitted they screwed up on this. There was some confusion about her birthday and the actress was blamed at first, but the writers finally said it was all their fault."
Oh, so it was just a mistake....I thought maybe something wierd was going to happen with Charlotte, like she was a time traveler before she was born..lol...thanks for letting me know:)
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milkeman
milkeman
12. RE: Time problems
Jul 3 2009, 2:12 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 3 2009, 2:12 AM EDT
"Oh, so it was just a mistake....I thought maybe something wierd was going to happen with Charlotte, like she was a time traveler before she was born..lol...thanks for letting me know:)"
yeah, little mistakes are made all the time, but it's okay by me if it was a harmless thing like that. did u see that crew woman people thought was Claire in the background that one time?
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