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Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 4 2010, 4:16 PM EST
| Post edited: Feb 4 2010, 4:17 PM EST
This might of already been talked about, but I was thinking at the end LA X (2) when Sayid woke up after being dead, could it be the same thing that happened to Locke but its (actually the man in black), so could Jacop have taken over Sayids body? Do you find this valuable?
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Stephany1177 |
1. RE: Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 4 2010, 4:55 PM EST
I've wondered about this myself. But I have decided I don't think so on this one. First off Sayid would't have to ask "What happened" if he were Jacob. He would already know. Also this has many differences to Locke/MIB. I think I posted this on another thread. However, with Locke/MIB there are two bodies. Locke's dead body and MIB. We visually see the two different figures. In other words MIB is sort of a doppleganger of Locke. With Sayid and Jacob... we only see Sayid's body. Jacob's body was burnt if I understand correctly, when MIB/Locke pushed him into the fire after Ben stabbed him. Sayid's body is still Sayid's body. There is no dead body for Sayid. Do you find this valuable? |
Chamara94 |
2. RE: Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 6 2010, 7:38 AM EST
"I've wondered about this myself. But I have decided I don't think so on this one. First off Sayid would't have to ask "What happened" if he were Jacob. He would already know.When the MIB/blacksmoke?? takes over the body of yemi ( eko's brother ) all of the wounds and stuff in yemi dissapeared ( i think ) but with sayid he still have the gun wound so i think when the black smokes takes over peoples body then it makes a copy of the body.. but for the Question ...i think sayid really have bin ressurected because if you remember liittle ben was much as close to dead as sayid was, and they were also shot in nearly the exact same part of the body ......but who knows...i would like to see jacob as sayid Do you find this valuable? |
ziva_rocks |
3. RE: Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 6 2010, 3:45 PM EST
"This might of already been talked about, but I was thinking at the end LA X (2) when Sayid woke up after being dead,I've heard this from a few sites now! The word going around is that Sayid is revealed as Jacob. And it could actually be true, knowing Lost anything can happen!! Do you find this valuable? |
Beatrix25 |
4. RE: Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 6 2010, 8:06 PM EST
I think Sayid is Jacob and I think Jacob wanted to die. Remember when Ben had to make Jack want to operate on him, I think that's a rule on the island...you have to make people want to do something or it's not allowed...free will I guess. Well, it seemed to me when Jacob said to Ben "What about you?'...Jacob knew it would anger Ben and make him want to kill him. Plus, Ben was wondering why Jacob didn't fight back.Before the other Others knew Jacob was dead, they had orders to save Sayid. They seem like dumb Others because they had to have known something was going on when the water was not clean and didn't heal that guys hand. Jacob was probably there waiting for Sayid to die. If Sayid died naturally with all the blood and wounds, then everyone would of known that Jacob is using his body. With Sayid having a chance to be healed, it gave Jacob a way to get away with people not knowing it's him. Also, did you notice that when Sayid was supposed to be dead. Miles was there and he seemed confused, like he wasn't hearing anything from Sayid. I forget who it was, but someone asked Miles something like "What?" and Miles said "Nothing." I think he meant that he heard nothing or he was too scared or confused to admit he heard nothing. Do you find this valuable? |
InfinitePhoenix |
5. RE: Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 6 2010, 10:08 PM EST
"When the MIB/blacksmoke?? takes over the body of yemi ( eko's brother ) all of the wounds and stuff in yemi dissapeared ( i think ) but with sayid he still have the gun wound so i think when the black smokes takes over peoples body then it makes a copy of the body.. but for the Question ...i think sayid really have bin ressurected because if you remember liittle ben was much as close to dead as sayid was, and they were also shot in nearly the exact same part of the body ......but who knows...i would like to see jacob as sayid "The Black Monster/MIB doesn't need a body to take on a certain form. The Black Smoke can shape shift into whatever it pleases- Yemi, Ben's Daughter, Locke, Spiders, etc... And yes, you're right...the temple is the place where Ben was saved. We'll find out why it's so essential for Sayid to have been saved the same way. Do you find this valuable? |
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Stephany1177 |
6. RE: Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 7 2010, 2:05 AM EST
I think I find the idea of Jacob taking over Sayid's body to be very cruel. Last season when Jacob goes to see Sayid, he stops him asking for directions, and Nadia walks out in the street and is killed. That's a harsh connection, and I don't think Jacob is meant to be cruel. Other than my previous statements about the difference between MIB and Locke and Sayid and Jacob's situation, that's the main reason, I'm not really fond of this Sayid=Jacob theory.
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Chamara94 |
7. RE: Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 7 2010, 1:27 PM EST
"I think I find the idea of Jacob taking over Sayid's body to be very cruel. Last season when Jacob goes to see Sayid, he stops him asking for directions, and Nadia walks out in the street and is killed. That's a harsh connection, and I don't think Jacob is meant to be cruel. Other than my previous statements about the difference between MIB and Locke and Sayid and Jacob's situation, that's the main reason, I'm not really fond of this Sayid=Jacob theory. "i think jacob killed nadia because he thinks thats the " sacrifice the island demands " Do you find this valuable? |
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InfinitePhoenix |
8. RE: Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 7 2010, 5:51 PM EST
"i think jacob killed nadia because he thinks thats the " sacrifice the island demands " "I don't think that Jacob killed Nadia, but rather saved Sayid from being killed with her. They both would've been killed had Jacob not stopped Sayid from crossing. Do you find this valuable? |
Mike1177 |
9. RE: Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 7 2010, 5:57 PM EST
"I don't think that Jacob killed Nadia, but rather saved Sayid from being killed with her. They both would've been killed had Jacob not stopped Sayid from crossing."I took that situation this same way. I'm with Stephany on this regardless. I don't think Jacob is meant to be that cruel. And with this connection that Sayid and Jacob have, that is indeed not very nice of him to take over Sayid's body. Do you find this valuable? |
Ms_Shadeslayer |
10. RE: Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 7 2010, 9:21 PM EST
"I don't think that Jacob killed Nadia, but rather saved Sayid from being killed with her. They both would've been killed had Jacob not stopped Sayid from crossing."Yeah, cuz in the letter found in that one part of the statue, Jacob said that it would be very bad if Sayid died, i think Jacob thinks Sayid has some sort of purpose, I don't think he took over his body though, I think Sayid just somehow came back to life... guess we'll just have to wait till Tuesday! Do you find this valuable? |
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Stephany1177 |
11. RE: Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 7 2010, 10:57 PM EST
I'm actually thinking that Jacob may at times end up speaking through Hurley. Hurley seemed a lot more confident and taking charge this last episode.
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Beatrix25 |
12. RE: Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 8 2010, 1:02 AM EST
Yea, Jacob might just talk to Hurley and tell him what to do to help everyone.I am thinking there might be a third being besides Jacob and the MIB with even more powers than them. You never know. I hope you guys are right and Sayid didn't die!! Sayid's my favorite, then Sawyer and Locke. I still want justice for Locke, I hated that the MIB had to talk about Locke's past like he was so pathetic. Sorry, Mr. MIB, that us human beings don't have the ability, like YOU to know when someone is going to throw you out a window and paralyze you. Locke wasn't pathetic, he was a victim from a sick, twisted monster....Anthony Cooper. Locke actually was doing an honorable thing by trying to stop that woman from being conned after Cooper killed her son. Do you find this valuable? |
milkeman |
13. RE: Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 8 2010, 1:57 AM EST
"I've heard this from a few sites now! The word going around is that Sayid is revealed as Jacob. And it could actually be true, knowing Lost anything can happen!!"yeah. it would make sense to have sayid become the new jacob. the message was in an ankh so i think that's a clue that jacob can live forever in new bodies once they're dead. also llana was looking for a candidate for something jacob asked her to do. i think jacob was looking for a new body, but wasn't sure who he was going to use. Do you find this valuable? |
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mcclain |
14. RE: Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 11 2010, 7:36 PM EST
Finally, someone who feels the same as i do. John Locke saw the good in everyone once he landed on the island. He was the one character that no matter how bad things got for him, he picked himself up and dusted himself off. I think the writers were wrong to kill him off. The only thing that could redeem themselves in my eyes, would be to bring him back from the dead. or if not, make his death mean something for the other survivors. P.S.-- Why has Sawyer and Rose told no one that Locke was in a wheelchair prior to the crash? They are the only two that know and they haven't said a word. It would turn some of the survivors into believers.
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Beatrix25 |
15. RE: Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 11 2010, 11:53 PM EST
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I agree mcclain and alot of people on this site feel the same, we talked about this a while ago, how we want justice for Locke and hate Anthony Cooper. It just added fuel to the fire when the MIB talked about Locke like he was so pitiful. There still might be hope for Locke, you never know.Speaking of Sawyer and Rose not telling anyone that Locke was paralized is so true. Also, Jin has not asked once to Kate or any of the Oceanic 6 if Sun had the baby, very strange, you would think that would be the first question he'd ask. I think Flight 815 survivors never asked enough questions and never reveal anything to eachother. If they did, they, and we would be less lost. Do you find this valuable? |
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Chamara94 |
16. RE: Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 12 2010, 7:09 AM EST
"I agree mcclain and alot of people on this site feel the same, we talked about this a while ago, how we want justice for Locke and hate Anthony Cooper. It just added fuel to the fire when the MIB talked about Locke like he was so pitiful. There still might be hope for Locke, you never know.yea you should think that kate would have told jin that he had a little daughter :/ i think jin is going to suprised :)!! btw i have this feeling that jin is not going to survive to the end :/ All justice for John Locke!!!!! Do you find this valuable? |
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mcclain |
17. RE: Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 12 2010, 6:01 PM EST
I think Jin will survive, but I don't think Miles will. That's sad because I can actually see a spin-off series with Miles investigating ghosts. But I know this won't happen because he'll probably get an arrow in his chest aound episode 5 (it always seems they kill off someone in the fifth episode of every season). I'm telling you...Miles is next.
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OrbofConfusion |
18. RE: Could Jacob be Sayid?
Feb 15 2010, 1:38 AM EST
"Yeah, cuz in the letter found in that one part of the statue, Jacob said that it would be very bad if Sayid died, i think Jacob thinks Sayid has some sort of purpose, I don't think he took over his body though, I think Sayid just somehow came back to life... guess we'll just have to wait till Tuesday!"I think the key here is in the Ankh, the Egyptian hieroglyphic character which means "eternal life". The message to "heal" Sayid arrived in this guitar case (I think that's what it was.) which was shaped like the Ankh. This is where I am confused. 1) Why would they need to heal or bring to Sayid back to life? Is he breathing in new "life" as Jacob? 2) Also, why would these people be afraid of the black monster? It must be his brother, the man in black. He wanted to kill Jacob but couldn't. So he had to get someone else to do it for him. In steps, Ben. Now with Jacob dead, the black monster (Jacob's brother) can now rid the world of these lowly inhabitants because all they do is bring horrible consequences along with them. They never get it right. This is where the whole Dharma thing comes in. It involves doing what is right for the individual, the family, the community and ultimately the universe as a whole. Each one of the people who came to the island were not behaving dharmically correct while on the island. This is what caused the man in black to become frustrated. He wanted it to end but unfortunately Jacob continued to "lure" people to the island. To play his game. To see who could stand the test of time. To be the true individual working towards perfect dharma. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
